Re: s it is I am gettiin' PTSD just thinkin' about it. ====================== ...yeah, and while you're thinking about it you're skating away on a pale green Tarkuna sea, enjoying the 21st century dimpleomacy. right? ---------- Don't you guys get when I'm joking around with you all? Apparently not! Anyway that's a line from a poem. Sometimes it's like being around a bunch of Bible literalists. Any flight of imagination or joviality may be perceived as a heresy to the Apocalypse Now exegisis posted here daily

Re: as it is I am gettiin' PTSD just thinkin' about it. ====================== ...yeah, and while you're thinking about it you're skating away on a pale green Tarkuna sea, enjoying the 21st century dimpleomacy. right? ---------- Don't you guys get when I'm joking around with you all? Apparently not! Anyway that's a line from a poem. Sometimes it's like being around a bunch of Bible literalists. Any flight of imagination or joviality may be perceived as a heresy to the Apocalypse Now exegisis posted here daily. ^^^^^^^ They can make fun of us when they have no rational fact-based responses, with vicious humor, slander and libel. When we come up with our humor, spontaneous or other, it don't compute so we get snide and sardonic replies of vacuumed emptyness. I know Ramsey did not mean that as a cruel joke, and anyone who would make light of the devastating effects of PTSD is also laughing about Building 18, our troops' traumas and normal mental disturbance reactions to warfare, abuse, torture and many other sadistic, violent and harrowing mistreatment and experiences of terrorism and warfare.

First off->the terrorist..ain't 1/1000 of what the nazi's were.. and then its more likely that the terrorist have times when they PLAY->both sides of the street.. .. in any real sense->its a dog fight.. NOT your ariel type Plane->Plane combat.. .. But a real doggy-gone-wild...ain't got a bit of lickity->sense..dog fight.. .. I'm sure the multi-front war of early terrorist activity was placeing the Royals of the Middle-East in some peril of their lives.. Actions/as the USARMY Command has mentioned..will change in the first minutes of a battle.. .. So I quess when all is figured in the actions of today's terrorist.. You have a beaten foe..and..his lies to the next batch of foolish followers.. from the slashed throats of crimminal Muslim's come the new action about being beaten down.

I think we might draw a parallelism../ That the Drug Dealing Gangs in this country(USA).. often find the hapless individual moping about the ghetto strewn intelligencia/they get snatched up for a time they are CHAINED and GAGGED for profit and punishment.. Mostly in the find of such activities you have the jungle creation of an eating mentality..they aren't so much "hungary" as they are just ignorant of better ways to leave the situation/there is the accidental OCD of life.. .......................................................... In the middle-east there seems a collection of brainless hapless wanderers looking mainly at the dirt for "relief".. They might find some herding activities but most likely wander until the God-like structure places them in the reality that "might is right".. And the main weapon seems to find the hapless/hoping for attention.. At that stage of the game I think the torture turns inside../ And the psycotic bends the will towards flight and fancy.. Aside from the same "Dark Alley" mentality as in the USA.. There seems the destruction of your "light" that wanders into the struggle to be a warlord.. Its not that role models leave some evidence as much as killing the evidence leaves nothing.. And nothing seems like alot in such places as the middle-east.. I think the hapless soon find a bomb strapped to themselves.

I think the hapless soon find a bomb strapped to themselves. --------------- Like she said..."they may indeed be worse" than the Nazis. Hapless individuals were used just as much by the Nazi regime to fight a war...but at least they had the good sense to surrender when captured and give up the fight. "Jihadists" have no such compunction...and would find it FAR MORE desirable to "find a bomb strapped to themselves" and blow themselves up with as many innocents as possible in the name of their cause (and religion!). So what is worse? The simply politically ideologically mislead...or the religiously ideologically mislead??? One will die for their country if they find they have to, or are ordered to...the other will die for their cause because the WANT TO!

...but you are right, the Sunnis should be given an equal share in government and oil profits.

Gee DCman, youse showing some moral gumption!

"spell check"

The good thing with the way ABC news has designed the new Message Board is that we have the opportunity to "spell check" our messages before posting them.

If you are being paid to post here, then I suppose it might be considered important. I get a big kick out of reading anal retentive comments about grammatical and spelling errors. I am more interested in reading unique perspectives and less concerned with whether someone follows a bunch of boring rules.

I get a big kick out of reading anal retentive comments about grammatical and spelling errors.

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This one made me laugh Sierra. lol ;)

To be honest, we should have been evaluating them BEFORE we went in rather than AFTER we went in. But then again, some people think it is AOK to experiment on people and put the blame on a few people when we should all accept responsibility for our contributing to the mess.

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I agree with the part that more thought should have been given to attacking Iraq before it happened. At the time when Iraq was attacked 9/11 was still very fresh in peoples minds and the consensus was "someone" must be made to pay. I don't remember what the polls were at the time of the Iraqi invasion,  but it was considerably high...and hindsight is always 20/20.

I have no idea where this link with 9/11 comes in. I never thought Iraq had anything to do with it, but did feel we had a lot to hold Saddam accountable for. THe whole Iraq thing stood on the merits known at that time, without the need for 9/11 rationale. Afghanistan was the target based on 9/11 and rightly so.

I have no idea where this link with 9/11 comes in. I never thought Iraq had anything to do with it, but did feel we had a lot to hold Saddam accountable for. THe whole Iraq thing stood on the merits known at that time, without the need for 9/11 rationale. Afghanistan was the target based on 9/11 and rightly so.

 

I do not believe Iraq would have been attacked if 9/11 did not occur. It is because of 9/11 that prompted the U.S. to "take out Saddam" because of the intelligence that was available at the time pointed to an AQ affiliation, and possible WMD possession. GW acted on the intelligence that was available to him and to the rest the senate, who voted 77-23 to attack Iraq if Saddam refused to give up WMD as required by UN resolutions.

The CIA had already disproved the Qaeda link to Baghdad while the Bush administration was still hammering out that lie. The United Nations inspections team on the ground in Iraq in 2002/2003 came to the conclusion that there were no WMD, and given the sanctions and the crumbling infrastructures, there was no way that Iraq in the 90's could have started a weapons program.

 

It's already an established fact that the "intelligence" had been deliberately manipulated in order to make the case for war on Iraq back then, and yet to this day, nobody has been held accountable for it.

Allawi warns of sectarian war

BAGHDAD: Iyad Allawi, the former prime minister who scored a surprise win in the recent general election, has warned that Iraq risks descending into a new sectarian war.

Mr Allawi said that since the bitterly contested election on March 7, in which his Iraqiya party list won 91 seats, political groups had abandoned efforts to build a united government and were regressing into sectarianism, encouraged by Iran.

Mr Allawi, who led the country for nine turbulent months in 2004 as a US-appointed transitional prime minister, warned that unless the US and its allies safeguarded Iraq's nascent democracy, renewed conflict could spread around the region. ''This conflict will not remain within the borders of Iraq,'' he said. ''It will spill over and it has the potential to reach the world at large, not just neighbouring countries.

''I feel … the international community has failed this country.''

Mr Allawi's warning came on the most deadly day of violence in Iraq this year, with at least 114 people killed and at least 300 wounded in a spate of shootings and explosions.

The attacks on Monday stood out from other spikes in bloodshed over the past year. They were marked by precise bombings and assassinations, in all corners of the country.

Twelve security officers were killed at Baghdad checkpoints by militants dressed as street cleaners and armed with pistols fitted with silencers.

The worst of the attacks took place in the Shiite heartland of Hilla in central Iraq, where a suicide bomber detonated a device amid a crowd that had gathered at the scene of two car bombings outside a textile factory. At least 43 people were confirmed dead.

Mr Allawi railed against a move by the incumbent Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, and a theocratic Shiite Islamic list to create a coalition that excludes his list. ''They are going back to their original sectarian ways,'' he said.

read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/allawi-warns-of-sectarian-war-20100511-uuba.html

Even though Obama made it a part political agenda to bring the troops home...he cannot. And now hostilities are about to break out possibly this summer with Iran/Syria vs Israel.

$20/ gallon of gas anyone? ...30 do I hear 30?

and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent what is coming either.