Just wanted to point one thing out here...the fact she cant go home atm is NOTHING to do with Howard...its to do with mommie dearest. And ya know i agree with the opening writer...the woman is dead just let it go!

NONE of this would be going on if Anna had not fled from the U.S. And it has all to do with Howard-he refused the paternity after Anna died and then appealled it. Mommie Dearest would not be in this mess had they done the right from the beginning. Put the blame where it belongs....

Lol Mommie Dearest would not be in this mess had they done the right from the beginning Not being funny but thats one of the most siliest things ive seen on this forum! Yes she would be in this mess cos shes in it of her own choosing. She could be the kinda granny most of us had or put the baby last and the money first which she has chosen to do. In actual fact once it went to the Bahamas the dna test was done v ery quickly. DO screwed up by trying to do it all in the US. HAD Howard said no its no mine...Vergie would have got the baby...and Larry would maybe NEVER have got it..so in all ...he maybe done the best thing. The baby could go home to the states but the GRANNY is being selfish...thats NOT Howards fault!

Larry would have had his daughter months ago, especially immediately after Anna died if the truth had been told right from the start. Howard is no different when it comes to putting the money before the baby, that is all he is interested in still today. You keep right on making excuses for Howard and blaming every one else, most of the world say he is to blame. I surely don't side with Vergie anymore, but I also put more of the blame on Anna and Howard. I have all along felt bad for Larry for what he has had to endure and wait for the day when they tell him 'take your little girl home.'

What you dont seem to understand ( and im not necessarily a Howard supporter) but if he had said at her death no im not the father then Vergie would have automatically been given the baby and would probably never have given her up. Maybe to most it seemed he was doing the wrong thing but im not so sure he was. He said to go there for the dna tests..they did...they got done and once it was established he was the father hes done everything he can to help Larry. Larry is himself full of praise for Howard saying that Howard has been great telling him the babies likes and dislikes ( which is funny when some on here say he has nothing to do with the baby).

No, I understand this perfectly well. Stern and Anna fled to the Bahama's before the baby was born and when she was born, Anna asked two different men to put their names on the B/C, one said no, the other (STERN) complied. He KNEW fully well there was NO WAY on this God's green earth he was the father but yet both he and Anna put Larry through hell. Larry asked for a paternity of the baby after she was born, Anna's lawyer told her not to do the test in January. And then when Anna died it took weeks before the test was done. It should have been done September 8th 2006, not March ? 2007. Stern also tried but failed to have the paternity halted. If the baby would have been given to Vergie all Larry would have had to do was file here in the U.S. for the DNA and custody would have been granted without a doubt. Grandparents have little rights in the U.S. over a living parent who is stable and capable of raising their child. Once that baby is on U.S. soil, no court orders stand from the Bahama's. And think about it when it comes to Stern helping - he is only trying his darnest to get on Larry's good side, he is still asking for control of that babies money. It is all about the money with both Stern and Arthur and both of them need to leave Larry alone already, he is her father and is the only one who controls anything to do with her now.

Last September i think she would have had other things on her mind rather than dna..

I don't care what she had on her mind, Larry had every right to be in his daughters life and she denied him that including the birth of his daughter which he will never get back. She took that away from him.

These celebrities personal lives are none of our concern. Their personal lives belong to them only. We need to stay behind the bounderies. Instead of trying to cross what is not for us to know. Their lives belong to only them alone....

What's up with Virgie wanting have custody of the baby if Larry should die? That was reported last night. She and Larry met Saturday, and this was discussed. He is the baby's father, and he should decide who will take his child if he should die, and I suspect that it will be his sister. I believe that Virgie should be in the baby's life as the grandmother, but she should not be calling any shots now that Dannielynn has her biological father who wants to raise her and it not concerned about money she may or may not get. Folks just don't know when enough is enough. Get a life and go on with it. Larry Birkhead is the FATHER, and HE should decide what's in the best interest for HIS daughter and no one else. Come on, Virgie, just let it rest!! Be the grandmother and do grandmother things like the rest of us. I hope the judge will decide just this, and tell her so.

What's up with Virgie wanting have custody of the baby if Larry should die? That was reported last night. She and Larry met Saturday, and this was discussed. He is the baby's father, and he should decide who will take his child if he should die, and I suspect that it will be his sister. I believe that Virgie should be in the baby's life as the grandmother, but she should not be calling any shots now that Dannielynn has her biological father who wants to raise her and it not concerned about money she may or may not get. Folks just don't know when enough is enough. Get a life and go on with it. Larry Birkhead is the FATHER, and HE should decide what's in the best interest for HIS daughter and no one else. Come on, Virgie, just let it rest!! Be the grandmother and do grandmother things like the rest of us. I hope the judge will decide just this, and tell her so. ********************************** ahh... but Virgie only viewed Larry and the other men as sperm donors. she ought to be praying she is even going to see the baby after that statement she made. lol!

All the disrespect going round about her! She may have done things no one agrees with. But she had a son and was grieving,and so many were downing her! As a mother of two kids I told myself I would write and tell her just how sorry I was. Not like I thought she would read it. But I felt so bad for this woman who sounded like a child. And I stepped in her shoes for a moment when she lost her son. She passed away and still people hate her! Shes gone forever. Her beautiful look alike baby will never remember having a mom. Please stop the disrespect? She had a life but she is gone forever. Please dont hurt her family anymore as her death did... ================================================= Anybody else read this? Now you know the meaning of the word "Empathy" Go get some.

I have a lot of empathy for people who don't do things over and over to hurt other people and then continually do things not to improve their own lives. Anna and Howard hurt alot of people especially the father of that innocent baby so no I don't have empathy for her. She brought it all on herself.

The funny thing is..the father of that innocent baby probably has more *empathy* for her. I sure bet he wishes she she was still alive. I dont understand the hatred for a dead woman you never knew and who never hurt you. You may not like how she lived..and the clown video...i think was way wrong..but i personally was brought up to treat the dead with respect..

Sorry but you may care, I don't. If it were someone who died of an illness or in a tragic accident, I have empathy. I have no empathy for people who do it to themselves. I don't even have empathy for a particular family member-told them don't call me anymore, as a matter of fact the whole family told the person. They do it to themself and want us to all feel sorry for them, I got better things to do with my time than babysit someone strung out.

yea...like come on here slagging a dead woman off..

Sorry but you may care, I don't. If it were someone who died of an illness or in a tragic accident, I have empathy. I have no empathy for people who do it to themselves. I don't even have empathy for a particular family member-told them don't call me anymore, as a matter of fact the whole family told the person. They do it to themself and want us to all feel sorry for them, I got better things to do with my time than babysit someone strung out. ===================================== I don't think you should have to put up with the actions of a family member who needs to be babysat, but the person needs to know it's his actions you won't put up with, not him personally, because then the relationship becomes a conditional relationship. We couldn't possibly love them if they do this, or they dislike us, or they have the wrong views, etc. If you don't act the way I think you should act, then I'll reject you. You are totally unacceptable to me if you lie, cheat, two-time me, hate me, treat my family wrong, don't agree with me on issues, etc. But if you do jump through my required hoops, then I'll love you (conditionally, obviously).

It got old and we are fed up. You can only take so much and when you get calls constantly of this person putting themselves in one crisis after another, getting fired from one job after another and thinking we have to feel sorry for him-I don't care what others do, but I refuse. I feel for anyone who is sick by no cause of their own or have suffered injuries because of someone else, but when someone keeps doing things to themselves instead of getting help, I have no empathy, sympathy period no sooner would I want anyone to give it to me. I have no use for people who lie everytime they open their mouth and won't waste my time on them. And this family member is nothing but a liar-went so far as to tell two different people he had three months to live-he was dying of cancer, one person he scammed $5000.00 out of. I hit the roof when I heard it and told him if I ever hear him say it again, I will give him something to die about. It really ticked me off especially when I know so many people who are fighting cancer. The only thing he has is a drug/alcohol problem.

The only thing he has is a drug/alcohol problem. ========================================== That and being a con. You can't help him, that's for sure..he has to want to change on his own.

Oh, con isn't the word. I am furious with him and will not talk to him. It hurts me acting this way to him but it is tough love. He has to know that his actions affects others deeply especially when he 'fakes' cancer. He blames it on the booze and uses one excuse after another and I will not tolerate it anymore. I am sick of my mother being mad at me because I will not baby him or cater to him so we don't speak either. He is in 39 also and needs to grow up and take responsiblity for his actions. He has a 14 year old daughter who never knows from one minute to the next if he will get her or not. He has a warrant out on him for owing over $50,000.00 in support-he cares about no one but himself and that is why all of this with Anna and Howard makes me so angry. When you make excuses for people like this then they never learn to accept responsibility and when children are involved like my niece, I get even angrier. I can't help but think daily of Daniel's life being over and now the future of this baby. I am sorry if it sounds cruel but I am glad Anna won't be raising another child especially after I seen what Daniel lived through and if people call me cold, so be it. I have seen what my niece has gone through and I stand firm that if a lifestyle that is not morally right for your child means more, than you have no business raising the kid/s. They deserve better.