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  • From: physicsisphun
  •   To: TheSteersman
  • 22 of 24
  • 4/4/08
I think that if we can get over the hurdle of the thinking that the Bible is the literal word of God we might have a reasonable chance to separate the wheat from the chaff - another big step for Mankind towards that synthesis.
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I concur.  Especially since the trend of reading the Bible literally is a 20th century invention.  Fundamentalists like to consider themselves a throwback to original religion and traditionalists, however the history of fundamentalism shows this to be a lie.
 
Fundamentalism and the practice of reading the Bible literally is an outgrowth of the tent revival movement of the 1910's and 1920's.  It is a very new and very modern adaptation of Christianity.
 
As to the censorship found on these boards, they do censor some things pretty heavily, and they never explain why.  If I felt that was too burdensome to deal with, I would post elsewhere.  However, I have had only one or two of my postings deleted in over two years of being on the board.
 
I consider that ABC does try to be evenhanded, and that they do a decent job at deletions.  Sometimes it is perplexing, but in general not to onerous.
  • From: dreamer_71
  •   To: Tie_Dye_Jenny
  • 23 of 24
  • 4/6/08
Unfortunately, young children almost always believe what their parents tell them, and they often carry these beliefs into adulthood.  If children were not allowed to hear about religion until they turned 18 (or better yet, 21) they would undoubtedly laugh out loud when someone tried to fill them with the silly myths of parting seas, burning bushes and virgins giving birth.

I suspect that this is the #1 reason why religion continues to propagate so well in an age when rational thought is well developed and science provides us with many answers to the world around us.  It is a natural function that children readily accept as truth whatever their parents tell them.  Thus, any misinformation or groundless beliefs taught to children while their brains are still in their formative learning years will be propagated into adulthood to be taught to the next generation.  Is it any wonder that such a high percentage of people share the same religion as their parents?

  • From: dreamer_71
  •   To: questioner18
  • 24 of 24
  • 4/7/08
In science you are taught the methodologies of science, and the speculative results.  Those results may be driven by facts or potential evidence, but the conclusions themselves are not facts.

"Speculative" results?  Is the speed of light speculative?  Are electron orbits speculative?  Is DNA speculative?  Is gravity speculative?

I think we need to define our terms here.  For starters, you might want to check out this Wikipedia entry on "Evolution as theory and fact."

In addition, because some scientists absolutely refuse to accept alternative answers due to lack of scientific fact for those answers, those scientists will claim that that alternative answer is, and must be, false.  In other words, the unknown and unclarified becomes the false.

Um, no.  What is "unknown and unclarified" is regarded as unproven.  Something is not regarded as factually false until logic and/or evidence directly contradict it and preclude it from being true.

This is the biggest farce of science.

I think one of the biggest farces are creationists who obviously have no understanding of the scientific method trying alternately to both reduce science to the status of just another belief system on par with religion, while ID'ers simultaneously try to use the authority of science to give their creationist mythologies some whiff of credence.

 
 
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