that Rosh was a well-known place in antiquity

and where might that well-known place be? No russia at that time.

From WIKI:
The name Russia is derived from Rus, a medieval state populated mostly by the East Slavs. However, this proper name became more prominent in the later history, and the country typically was called by its inhabitants "??????? ?????" (russkaya zemlya) which could be translated as "Russian Land" or "Land of Rus'". In order to distinguish this state from other states derived from it, it is denoted as Kievan Rus' by modern historiography. The name Rus' itself comes from Rus people, a group of Varangians (possibly Swedish Vikings)^[24][25] who founded the state of Rus (????).

So, how do the two link up in any way.

Regardless of the arguments made for and against the significance of the name "Rosh," there is always Magog to fall back on, and there is no question that Magog was the land that later became known as Russia.

 

And unlike "Rosh" which does not appear in some Bible translations, Magog always does, or virtually always.

No dogma, not much of anything.  I attended a Unitarian Church several months ago, and found it most unsatisfying.

You have that right. But, heck, how stupid and I to think satisfaction comes from within?

  I took a look through their hymnbook, and discovered just about all my favorites conspicuously absent.
Oh wow! Not only is it bad not to have the same beliefs as you but not having the same hymns...unforgivable.  Oh my.

again, hardy har har. The interpretation of gog and magog runs the gamut from Scythians to Swedes to Mongols to Hitler to just about any thing you can think of. Trying to match scripture with stuff happening today is nothing new, since it has been going on since Josephus.
There is no basis for any of the interpretations outside of these guys were thrown out of heaven. I sure hope you don't run your life based on this silliness.
Oh yeah, you will probably say something like the Scythians were from what is now Russia, but please do a little research before retorting with that claptrap. The Scythians were more than likely Iranian in language and culture and heritage. Not russian.

Below is a quote for a scholarly publication which disagrees with your source.     "The most impressive evidence in favor of taking Rosh as a proper name is simply that this translation is the most accurate. G. A. Cooke, a Hebrew scholar, translates Ezekiel 38:2, “the chief of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal.” He calls this “the most natural way of rendering the Hebrew.”

 

While I would agree that rendering ancient Hebrew is difficult, there is nothing 'natural' about it one way or the other.    So TwoSee, please cite the publication and provide a link (if possible) - I am always interested in challenging spurious translations .  

 

However, if the publication has anything to do with eschatology, then I am not interested (agenda-driven propaganda is neither credible nor reliable).     I am somewhat familiar with G. Cooke's body of work ... dedicated - but sometimes, a bit off the mark.    In this case (rosh), if the information you posted is accurate and not taken out of a context which would indicate otherwise, then he missed the mark completely.         In either case, if his translation of rosh had been accurate and authoritative in the first place, it would now be found in virtually every translation since the Schofield Bible.     It is not ... rosh is not Russia.     

he said that stuff in 1936 and there is a lot of scholarship after that. Do the science instead of leaning on some fairly old scholarship as the last word in chocolate bubblegum formulas is what I say.
Phil, there is a great discussion of this at this site:

http://americanvision.org/5589/when-prophecy-books-go-bad/

Hey Phil, are you an Orthodox Jew?  My concern is for the water birds out on your Arkansas pond, I recall you wanted to know what to feed them... now I suspect that you might be twirling them by their heads over your head as a ritual such as the other Orthodox Jews do with chickens.

How bizarre. Why would you post something like that? Must be missing ax these days.

Yeah I know... you love Phil, that's clearly obvious... You guys are flaming, go for it! I have not problem with acknowledging same sex natural predilections, let us know how it all turned out.

How bizarre. Why would you post something like that? Must be missing ax these days.

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Yeah, come to think of it... you might have mentioned that you had his email address here in the past, ok, how about you share with the rest of our 'enquiring minds' what does Phil do exactly to pacify his mental god??

naw, sorry, i find mano et mano manifestations a bit bizarre and not for me. Don't have ax's address.

But getting back to the question at hand, I find out of context postings like above to be a well used tool of fundies to back up a position. Here is an example from the site I posted earlier. Just got to love the way some folks follow the 10 commandments:

In footnote 6 to chapter 4, Hitchcock quotes from John Taylor’s commentary on Ezekiel: “If a place-name Rosh could be vouched for, [the Revised Version’s] prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal would be the best translation.”[26] Hitchcock failed to cite the entire sentence. Where he puts a period, there should be a comma. Here’s what follows: “but in the absence of any satisfactory identification and in view of the frequent coupling to Meshech and Tubal (Gn. 10:2 = I Ch. 1:5; Ezk. 27:13; 32:26), we must suppose [rosh] (= ‘head’, ‘chief’) to be in apposition to, or even a gloss on, the word prince.”[27] He’s not just a prince; he’s the chief prince.

the great thing about this quote Phil is that it is from a biblical vision site....LOL!

Oh wow! Not only is it bad not to have the same beliefs as you but not having the same hymns...unforgivable. 

 

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Not unforgiveable, just very sad.  All reference to Jesus Christ in this "church" was conspicuously absent.

 

One of my favorite hymns?  Lift High the Cross, written almost 100 years ago, which is probably the last hymn you would ever expect to find in a place like that.

 

"Lift high the Cross,

The love of Christ proclaim

'Til all the world adore

His sacred name."

the great thing about this quote Phil is that it is from a biblical vision site....LOL!

 

Very good work there MD ... appears to be an excellent link (from the small amount of information that I have gleaned thus far)  ... I have added it as a shortcut for later reference (hopefully this weekend when I will have more time to peruse it).      To be honest ... I knew about the out of date (1936) reference -- was waiting for Two See to admit it; but nothing.        Perhaps TwoSee will check your link, and understand where the error is in interpreting 'rosh' as Russia and we can put this one to bed.      

Yes - I admire your love and affection for all animals ... and yes - I know about the swinging thing.        Troubling to say the least.