We need to rejoin reality and fact. Cars kill a hundred times more people per day than firearms in our country. The mistakes that doctors make in hospitals kill 10 times as many people per day as firearms do in our country. Guns are not the biggest nastiest killer in the land by any means. You do not walk into the local corner store and just walk out with a handgun. There are background checks and a lot of paperwork. In Cho's case the background check did not detect his mental illness. It should have but somebody in the government industry didn't do their job and the information was not in the system. Blaming the gun or the gun shop is ignorant. Use the facts and truth to find the situation or the person that short-circuited the system that is there to detect people like him. Odds are we are talking about a liberal ACLU backed law that does not allow the sharing of information or a liberal bureaucracy clerk that was at one of his paid daily prayers to the east and forgot to update the system. Who ever or what ever stopped this system from working should be ferreted out and exposed to the world without liberal propaganda or spin.

Cars aren't designed to kill peopole. Guns are.

Guns are desigend to expel a projectile at high velocity. All else is a matter of application. Why do you care less about the 50,000 who die per year in car accidents than approximately 17,000 who die by firearms?

I can use a car to kill just as many people if not more in one time, than one bullet.

Cars aren't designed to kill peopole. Guns are. =============================================== I have a gun, im not using it to kill people. I use it for shooting range and it relieves ALOT of stress for me. some people use guns for hunting. Guns are not only design to kill people, there are sports for it too. Shooting range and etc

The mistakes that doctors make in hospitals kill 10 times as many people per day as firearms do in our country. Amen, they killed my 16 yr old 4 yrs ago

I am by no means a gun extremist. I am however, one of those 5000 (or what ever number it might be). I have had the need on two occasions to use a firearm to protect myself or a member of my family. In both cases the mere presence of the weapon was enough to make the individual turn tail and run. I live in CCL state. Events like these make me all the more conscious on making sure I have my pistol when I leave the house.

Well, then, I'm a fool who was TWICE saved by having a gun on my person. Without a handgun, I would have been severely beaten, stabbed or dead. I didn't even have to fire or point the gun. All I had to do was let its presence be known, and the aggressors fled. I spent four years in the U.S. Air Force as a Security Policeman and never ONCE had to draw my .38 revolver in anger. When I was honorably discharged in 1979, I immediately obtained a concealed weapon permit from my native Washington State. In one instance, an agitated young man with a tire iron threatened to "beat my brains out." He was angry because someone had just hit his car and I was a convenient target for his wrath. And no, I didn't hit his car. I was parked at the time, waiting for traffic to ease up so I could pull away from the curb. In the second instance, I was a college student walking down a downtown Spokane street when I came around a corner. There was a wild-eyed loonie, with a huge knife, who had backed a group of pedestrians into a locked storefront by waving it about. In both instances, I merely had to pull my revolver and yell at the aggressors to leave immediately. They did, too. Rapidly. Now, I don't know about guns saving 5,000 folks a day, a week or a month. I mean, how do you measure a crime that was thwarted before it began? But I do know this --- since a number of U.S. states began allowing their citizens to legally carry a concealed handgun, crime in those states has gone down. This is according to the U.S. Department of Justice. I know this doesn't fit into your preconceived notion that all gun owners are pot-bellied, fat, drooling, ignorant hicks with itchy trigger fingers. As for purchasing firearms, especially handguns, there are numerous local, state and federal laws that must be met before you purchase one. Cho had to fill out federal paperwork to buy his two handguns. He was required to have at least two forms of identification. Instead of railing against responsible gun owners like us, you should support efforts to allow those with concealed weapon permits to come onto school grounds. Those with permits have been trained and had extensive background checks. Just one of these persons might have stopped Cho before he began, or early in the tragedy. It makes sense. Would you attack any facility that might have armed people inside? If you did, you almost certainly wouldn't get far.

Instead of railing against gun availability and the 2nd Amendment do a little research, if you?re capable, and learn some facts. *Hint ? the major news networks aren?t giving you facts.

Because that would require effort and thought.

BS-guns are designed to project a bullet

 

[QUOTE]Cars aren't designed to kill peopole. Guns are.[QUOTE]

Neither will kill when used by a responsible person (unless of course defending ones life).Both will kill when used unresponsibly.The difference is,some of the wisest people to live in this country ensured our right to own a gun.Except for yourself and Exxon, nobody cares about your priviledge to own a car.

BE RATIONAL please.
he was Virginia and Federal background  checked  at  time of  purchase, prior to delivery  of  purchase, with  multiple current identification  documents, including  Virginia  issued photo  ID.
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does anyone need all this to buy CANDY? No.

mine are well designed, quality firearms, and fire when I determine to pull the trigger.
This happens 100% at the shooting range, where I enjoy shooting at paper targets.
Practicing shooting keeps my shooting skills keen.
I am responsible when, where, and at what I aim at. Even responsible for what is behind what I aim at.
Firing a firearm is a bigger responsibility than you can even imagine, without taking a training course, as I have.
If you haven't sat in a training  course for 16 hours of classroom instruction and 4 hours of  demonstrating safe firearm skills to the range instructor at the range, in order to qualify for a state permit.
You are unjustified saying what you have.  

you were trained not to brandish your firearm, as you admit doing. that is a felony in my state.
maybe you need some retraining.

Yes. What is obcene is the fact that under the LAW He could not have a Fire Arm.
The problem was that nobody bothered to report the fact He was ordered to undergo treatment and that would have prevented the sales. So it was the Doctors and the Courts that dropped the ball on this one.

Here's a perfect example of how easy it is to buy a weapon in the USA...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/15/baby.gun.ap/index.html?eref=rss_us

What a "great" country!... and we cry when there are VT incidents?  Do something about this instead of crying.

 

And what is wrong with this?  According to federal law, you have to be 18 or over to purchase a long gun.  I am sure that the grandfather was.  Guns can be given as gifts.  I have been giving long guns to my 14 yr old son for 4 years.  There are no federal laws concerning age to possess or own a long gun.  Did you want the grandfather to give his grandson $400-500 to buy hookers or drugs? 

Both the grandfather and grandson obviously were not:  under indictment for a felony in which they could be convicted for more than one year, convicted felons, a fugitive, addicted to controlled substances, discharged  dishonorably from the armed forces, renounced their citizenship, illegal aliens, judged mentally incompetent, arrested for domestic violence,  or had restraining orders filed against them.

How much harder should it be to purchase a firearm?  Do you want them to know someone, donate to a politician, pay a $500 "TAX", or wait 6 months to see if you really want one?

I seriously don't see this gun being used to commit a crime.  I know some people think that this will corrupt the child and he will be a gang-banger by the time he is 2 years old and will have had to kill a human go join the gang.

Mark