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  • From: bigtimebeliever
  •   To: stop_pretending
  • 15 of 195
  • 12/21/07

I think that faith is faith (trust) in something or someone period.  I don't think it needs to be labeled religious faith vs another kind of faith.  Can you explain what you mean?

  • From: johnrudemech47
  •   To: bigtimebeliever
  • 16 of 195
  • 12/22/07
I think that faith is faith (trust) in something or someone period.  I don't think it needs to be labeled religious faith vs another kind of faith.  Can you explain what you mean?

I ride in airplanes knowing that mechanical most are sound.  I know that no one without proper knowledge and training will get at the controls. I know that machines and computers are pretty reliable.  I know that there is a chance I will die in a plane crash.  I calculate the odds and make a decision.  These are all based on known facts.  I suggest that rather than listen to your preacher tell you that faith in god and the knowledge of the odds in flying a plane are the same,  you use your mind instead of listening to and beleiving any old clap trap that is told to you.  Your belief system, if evidenced by your last post, is very hit or miss as far as logic is concerned.  For such an important thing as your beliefs are, I would have thought you would devote more time and effort into them.

As far as faith in other people.  There is another unsound reasoning point you have made.  I trust no one, until such a time as I have had time and the ability to watch their actions.  No faith involved.  Again, I know the person, I know how they react to things I have observed, I make a calculated decision to trust them with something.  No faith involved.  Your reasoning is full of holes that I could drive a truck through.  But, then a lot of christians think this way, it is easy and it does not require any thinking on their part.
  • From: bigtimebeliever
  •   To: johnrudemech47
  • 17 of 195
  • 12/22/07

Merry_everything brought up faith in people...chill dude.

Message 28979.18 was deleted
  • From: urx_me
  •   To: Gog_and_Magog
  • 19 of 195
  • 12/22/07
"The religious are taught WHAT to think... and they are discouraged or prevented (to the extent possible) from learning HOW to think, through mind-manipulation techniques and psychological tricks that were developed and refined over the past 1,700 years or so. Guess what?... they work."

Flaming frustrating, isn't it?
  • From: bigtimebeliever
  •   To: Gog_and_Magog
  • 20 of 195
  • 12/23/07
Where is that stuff parrotted from?
Message 28979.21 was deleted
  • From: physicsisphun
  •   To: Gog_and_Magog
  • 22 of 195
  • 12/23/07
Parroted? LOL. Extemporaneous... stream of consciousness... off the top of my head.
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See BTB, that's what happens when you study lots of things instead of one thing.  You become educated enough to actually discuss and write about lots of topics instead of the same thing over and over again.
 
It is strongly encouraged.
  • From: bigtimebeliever
  •   To: physicsisphun
  • 23 of 195
  • 12/24/07
So if it's from the Bible, it's "parroting".....if it's from another source, it's called being educated.  Double standard.
Message 28979.24 was deleted
  • From: bigtimebeliever
  •   To: Gog_and_Magog
  • 25 of 195
  • 12/24/07
That means you made it up.
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  • From: physicsisphun
  •   To: bigtimebeliever
  • 29 of 195
  • 12/24/07
So if it's from the Bible, it's "parroting".....if it's from another source, it's called being educated.  Double standard.
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I think Gog said it best.
 
I will let it stand there, and no, there is no double standard.
Message 28979.30 was deleted
  • From: bigtimebeliever
  •   To: Gog_and_Magog
  • 31 of 195
  • 12/24/07
I appreciate your opinion...you come across like you actually know facts.
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