At a time when all Americans should be pulling together, we are tearing into our President. Doesn't anyone remember Mary Jo and how Sen. Edward Kennedy left her to die and then lied about it? Is that any less a waste of life? Yet, time and again he and his followers berate, criticize and do whatever they can to discredit our President and the Republican Party. I'm sick of hearing it. Thank God for the brave, wonderful men and women who possess the patriotism and courage to perform their jobs in horrible circumstances. May God and the American people never forget their sacrifices and those of their families. Al Queda has promised to obliterate the "infidels" from the face of the earth. Wake up Liberals, YOU are the infidels. Our soldiers are trying to protect YOU and our country.

It is not the responsibility of the United States to attain freedom for ANY country other than our own. We can assist and help monitor elections, but change ALWAYS comes from within. Free elections still can have outcomes that are in opposition to the US's wishes. Just look at Palestine! Now we have a terrorist organization governing them! Good work Bush!

...and by the way...I am a military dependent. I come from generations of military retirees. Many have fought and died for our country. Don't question my patriotism! Thomas Jefferson said, "dissent is the truest form of patriotism".

who questioned your patriotism ~ I never did, and if that's how you feel then one should stop assuming! Refer to the HISTORY of my family's SERVICE post for futher comments.... Oh wait....and you served this country, oh yeah that's right you're just a dependent! Ooops, sorry, my bad!

Lies? Believe it or not the GOP is too smart for that... I did not vote for the President's father because I think it should be illegal for a former Director fo the CIA to be President. I did not vote for the President because I found him to be out of touch with reality. I am not afraid that BUSH and his staff of NEO CONS lied... I am more afraid that they did not...that they knew darn well there were WMD there because they HELD THE BILL OF SALE from when we sold (and GAVE!) the munitions to Saddam when he was fightingf Iran... ...and I am afriad of the same thing they are...IF THEY ARE NOT IN IRAQ...WHERE IN THE HECK ARE THEY? Burried, hopefully, or in Syria, waiting to be turned unto more IED's to be used against our own people... THEY REAL LIE is that our economy is dependent on US FORIEGN ARMS SALES... WANT TO HELP OUT OUR SOLIDIERS IN IRAQ? DEMANS FROM YOU EVERYONE YOU MEET THAT THEY DEMAND AN END TO ALL FOREIGN ARMS SALES OR DONATIONS... HOW MANY MORE SOLDIERS AND REPORTERS HAVE TO DIE FROM WEAPONS THAT SAY "MADE IN THE U.S.A"? BEFORE WE STOP THE TRADE OF THESE WEAPONS AND END ALL TIES TO COUNTRIES THAT WILL NOT FOLLOW SUIT?!?!

Now we're getting somewhere. Damned good post

Just wanted to say....to all that have posted on this thread....thanks for the debate. Our differences make us all unique individuals, and that's part of the beauty of this country. I meant no disrespect towards anyone, and during my heated exchanges should I have offended anyone I apologize. However..... please understand that we are all entitled to be as passionate about our beliefs as the next person... Good night all....and God Bless our Troops! ~ Always with you on freedoms frontlines ~

What a waste, two more of Gods children have been injured horribly because Bush lied and started an unjust war. They asked for it bys signing up. If your President orders you to die so he and his friend can make some more money, then you MUST die willingly, cheerfully, and with delight.

Interesting... my brother signed up for the Army after 9/11, but I don't think in his contract any where it said he was going to die "willingly, cheerfully and with delight". He felt he had a responsibility to protect his country and the freedoms he enjoys. Is that what he is doing in Iraq? Maybe. One of the problems with Americans is the need for instant gratification. Our freedoms might not be in danger right now, but what says we will always be in the position we are in right now. Did you learn nothing from 9/11? My brother may save your tailend someday because of the work he is doing now. So I wouldn't make statements like "they asked for it by signing up" unless you plan on defending yourself against terrorist and nuclear weapons. Good thing you are free to have your own opinion but you might want to invest more time in making intelligent statements.

Bush had nothing to do with these two people over there. They were there because they wanted to go. They are just two people inujured, nothing special about them, don't know why all the publicity. I guess its because a guy making a million dollars a year gets hurt. Not much mention when a twenty thousand dollar a year soldier gets wounded.

Oh wait....and you served this country, oh yeah that's right you're just a dependent! Ooops, sorry, my bad! I am a military wife which makes me a dependent. Believe me there needs to be a part of the military for dependents. Dont think that for a minute just because I am a dependent that I have not sacraficed. If it wasnt for me and many other dependants our soldiers wouldnt make it. Who do they call when they need to talk, dependents, who do they ask to send them things when they need it, dependents,who takes care of them when home from war physically or mentally injured,dependents, who takes care of everything when they are sent off to war DEPENDENTS!!! I hate this war and my husband has fought in it and is schedualed to fight in it again, but I will not leave him when he needs me most. Believe me I am just as much in the military as he is.

I'm just a military sister, but I will say the Amry has changed my life also. Maybe not as much as my brothers, but it definitely changes the way I look at my life and my family. So I think the military should make a special section for dependents. All of us are. My brother depends on me just as much as I do him. Military husbands and wives have help their soldier more than any one will ever know. Thank you for the sacrifices you have made. I know that my brother, who is single and when in the states is stationed across the country from me and several states away from my parents, has relied on his friends wives often. Again Thank you for the sacrifices you and your family go through. Most people will never know!

aSaylorsGirl: Oh wait....and you served this country, oh yeah that's right you're just a dependent! Ooops, sorry, my bad! I am a military wife which makes me a dependent. Believe me there needs to be a part of the military for dependents. Dont think that for a minute just because I am a dependent that I have not sacraficed. rachdawn25, I understand your anger with aSaylorsGirl's this statement in that post. When someone has a wife, husband, son, daughter, mother or father that is in the military, you are sacrificing too. You don't hear many cheers of support to the family members of those serving. I stood by as my husband served in the Navy. And sacrificed many months of my life when he was out to sea fighting during Operation Enduring Freedom, and Operation Iraqi Freedom. We Navy (And other branches)spouses are always in the shadows. It is us who keep things going at home, and are the ones standing pier side when they come home. How many hours did I stand in rain waiting for my husband carrier to dock in Bremerton? How many hours did I spend typing email after email to my husband? How many hours did I spend making a care package to send to him? You know what I'm talking about, and so I share your anger. Although I also believe aSaylorGirl does also, I think she was angered at the person she was responding to and was striking out at that person, and not necessarily all dependents. It angers me when so many people can vilify our military. I understand some not liking the war, or not believing in why we're there, or even thinking that the President is a horrible person (which, for the record, I don't believe any of those things). Everyone is certainly welcome to their opinions. That is the beauty of living here in America. If we were in Afghanistan or Iraq before the wars there, we'd most likely be killed for our opinions (especially the fact we're all women! Speaking about rachdawn25, aSaylorsGirl and myself). What I don't understand, and never have or will understand, is the people who have the balls to hate the military. These men and women give up so much (including being with their dependents) for no fanfare, no thank yous. They put their lives on the line everyday so people like us can voice our opinions. They put their lives on the line to help protect us in many ways. When 9/11 happened, do you think it was just police and fire that responded (more thankless jobs)? When there is a national disaster, who do you think responds? If you are against the war for what ever reason, so be it. But please, don't you blame everyday people that volunteered to help our country to be its best. I have spoken to many soldiers and sailors that have come back from Iraq and have said the people there are happy that we're there. I have also spoken to some who think we should have never gone there, but what we're doing there now is a good thing. To aSaylorsGirl: I'm happy to hear you stand beside your husband and your brother, and thank you for your service. I enjoy reading your posts. To rachdawn25: I understand your anger about your husband having to go back to Iraq, and you again not able to be with him. I am sorry it has to be this way. The only advice (I'm handing it out, but by no means do you have to take it, or even listen ;) ) I can give as a military wife, is do your best to support him, even though neither of you believe in the war ( I gather this from reading some of your posts). I understand your frustration when you posted " I feel that our soldiers are giving all they have for this war and are receiving nothing in return. The families of these soldiers are consequently thrown into the horrors of war as well. I realize that these soldiers signed up for this but does that mean they dont get a say in what happens"? The only thing that the soldiers are going to get at this time, is our support, and a small paycheck, and some benefits on the base. Like I posted, it is a thankless job. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a say in anything, he is property of the US government. The only thing he could do now, if he doesn't want to fulfill his contract, is to get out, with an dishonorable discharge. If he does that, then he will never get any benefits from his service. If he stays in, one day he'll b able to use it in civilian life and get benefits for his service in the military. I also read somewhere that he is not a citizen of the US. Just a US territory? I believe that the military can help him achieve citizenship while serving, if he is interested. That way, he would have more say, with the ability to vote for his commander in chief. I suggest (if you haven't already) contact your ombudsman, or chaplain. I'm sure they'd be more then happy to help you with any questions, or if you just need someone to talk to. I hate to say this, but if you're searching for answer to your questions here, all you're more then likely going to get is snotty comments, and some that share the same thoughts, but don't really have answers for you. Also, you may find some help involving you brother in law through these sources too. You might also check into the American Legion and VFW, there are always people there that will try and help you. Also, you might find these sites helpful too. Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America http://www.iava.org/index2.html http://saluteheroes.org/redesign/ rachdawn25, I may not feel the same about the war, but I do understand your feelings about your husband going back to fight. I also saw my husband go out twice. Neither he nor I wanted him to go. So from military wife to military wife, I applaud you for your sacrifice, strength and courage. And I also thank your husband for his sacrifices he has made for me and my family. I hope you take my advice in the manner it was given. I'm not trying to be preachy or anything of the sort. Good luck to you, and your family. If I can help you in any way, even if it is just someone to vent to, let me know. Jen

I hope you take my advice in the manner it was given. I'm not trying to be preachy or anything of the sort. Good luck to you, and your family. If I can help you in any way, even if it is just someone to vent to, let me know. I thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my post. I do not feel that you are preaching. I am just angry. I know this is not the place to find support, but I am always grateful to get replies like yours. I also read somewhere that he is not a citizen of the US. Just a US territory? I believe that the military can help him achieve citizenship while serving, if he is interested. That way, he would have more say, with the ability to vote for his commander in chief. I know that the military will give him citizenship. Thats not really my point. I just feel that if you sign up for the military you should automatically be able to vote for the president. My husband is not interested in becoming a citizen of America, only because when he does that, he gives up his citizenship to where he is from. My point is that these people shouldnt have to make that choice they should be able to keep their citizenship and at least just be able to vote for the president. That is the only point I want to make. I thank you for the websites, I will be sure to let my brother in law know about them. And I am sure you will see me on here in other posts venting somehow. Its my little release. Its hard to talk to my husband about it because he cant really do anything so he just gets frustrated so he actually encourages me to get on here and voice my opinions. Again thank you Jen for your post.

This board is to send your thoughts to our soliders not to bash Bush. Go to another board and do that. To me that is just disrespectful to our soliders.

PRESIDENT BUSH DIDN'T START THIS BEN LADIN STARTED THIS AND SADDAM HUSSEIN STARTED IT WHEN HE KILLED THOUSANDS OF HUMAN BEINGS FOR NO REASON EXCEPT THAT HE IS AN EVIL MONSTER, PLEASE PICK YOUR ENEMY'S CAREFULLY.

You know what gets me? We have a so called, President who has lied...(confirmed Liar since his administration as Gov of Texas) and Republicans are still talking trash about Bill Clinton. I dont remember Clinton lying about war.. only about a BJ. Other countries think we are a bunch of war mongers and they see us as agressive. We can no longer be called lovers of peace when we justify bad behavior for the sake of Daddys legacy.

hey Texas please read the previous post by goldie and go someplace else to do your ranting, this board is to thank our military.

People hate Bush just like I hate both of the Clintons. I understand that and I accept that. But the popular voice saying that Bush lied is getting old, very old. I spent 21 years in the military. Never one time did anyone force me to do something wrong. Not once did anyone lie to me officially. You Bush-haters have to slog it out for eight years just as the rest of us had to slog it out with Clinton for eight years. Get over it.

No some one killed us mouthers fathers and siblings in newyork and washington and sealed the deal and thats a fact!