"I definitely hear this fight to let the world know how ridiculous it is to believe in god or heaven. I, not necessarily of any religion myself, get so frustrated when atheists, or anyone really, begin to criticize other religions needlessly. The constitution clearly gives everyone a right to practice their religion, or lack of religion, but attempting to cry out to the extent of clearing God or any organized religion from our country or legal system is crude, absurd and intolerable. We are all given the right to religion, whether christian, scientific or otherwise and to criticize anyone practicing this right is extremely offensive."
Ok here we go again. NO ONE especially the Atheists of this country are denying anyone of their rights to exercise what ever religion they so choose. What most Atheists, myself included, do get upset about is when religion is brought into places where it has no right to be. Public schools, court houses, you know, same ol' same ol'. So that being said, chill out, go for a walk and go get yourself an ice cream cone.
In the United States, the usual oath required of all those who will give witness in court asks: "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?"
does this not bring god into the legal system?
I definitely hear this fight to let the world know how ridiculous it is to believe in god or heaven. I, not necessarily of any religion myself, get so frustrated when atheists, or anyone really, begin to criticize other religions needlessly. The constitution clearly gives everyone a right to practice their religion, or lack of religion, but attempting to cry out to the extent of clearing God or any organized religion from our country or legal system is crude, absurd and intolerable. We are all given the right to religion, whether christian, scientific or otherwise and to criticize anyone practicing this right is extremely offensive.
You think you have it so bad? Really?? I don't see a forum topic labeled "How do you feel about Christians?" anywhere. Or .....about Mormons?, or ..... about Muslims?, or ..... about Jews?, or...... about Baptists?, etc. No, the only one I see is one that asks "How do you feel about 'atheists?'"
If that isn't outright prejudice, then I don't know what is. And because what I am saying is 100% true, this post will probably be removed just as soon as a moderator sees it.
Nope, just a serious guilt trip for those who figured God was going to send them to hell for lying if they choose that road - it is psychological war fare - they present the bible to scare the beegees out of a person - not to actually influence anything other than the person swearing on the bible. Just like we tell people going to jail for murder - say hi to bubba and I advise some soap on the rope - that should not influence the trial but it sure will give the defendant something to squirm about during the trial.
Actually I disagree that it is the basis for most religions - a lot of religions don't have a hell at all.
Only three religions have hell.
If you take religion from it's infancy - pre-bible [gasp, yep, before God, the prophesies and Jesus] than yes, there was no punishment for sin per se. In fact if you look at most pre-Christian or even religions that existed with Hebrews/Jews they had no problems with sex outside marriage, worshipping many gods, etc. The laws about stealing and such were not religious but community based and some cultures/religions did not see it as sin - look at Indians - the feathered kind not the dotted - they had no problems reconciling with their Gods stealing stuff - including chicks.
There are a handful of major religions that do believe in Sin, the Devil and Hell but most believed if you fell in battle, lived a good life and such you were good. Even Egyptians did not have a hang up about the afterlife in the belief that there was a hell - if your heart was not good you just simply stopped existing - and good was not tied into believing any one particular god - you had several to choose from.
The concept of sin is really just taking doing bad things and upping the consequences to a whole new dimension because a lot of cultures and religions did not have such stuff and Christians, Jews, Muslims and such wanted to give people yet another reason to do what they were told - on top of political reasons, laws and community beliefs. It is something that evolved in some religions but a lot of religions don't have sin per se, they certainly don't have hell nor tortures beyond belief in the afterlife. Take for instance Pagans - many different groups and yet none of them say yep you slept with so and so therefore your going hell. They don't care who you slept with and neither do the Gods. Go figure. Buddhist believe in reincarnation - not hell - until you become a balanced and good person you keep plugging at life - one life time after another but no hell fire, damnation nor demons.