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Has anyone here watched it, I wasn't too thrilled about viewing it because of my past knowledge of Bill's foul mouth, just a little residual mind hangup with me, being raised religious an all..  Anywho... it's viewable on streaming Netflix now, and so far for me, it's worth watching and quite entertaining. Bon appetite. 
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I think Phil would love it!...
  • From: hardyhar77
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He's probably already seen it. I have only seen excerpts, but would like to see the whole thing sometime. Bill must be on some fundie assassination list somewhere (LOL, kinda like the Taliban!)
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Absolutely brilliant! I highly recommend it to the myth believers and agnostics alike, even those 'fence straddlers'... the 'undecided'... who are not quite ready to be hard core atheist like me, and are seeking a little more evidence.
  • From: pk712
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Yes, I enjoyed it too!  Bill has a knack for exposing the ridiculous.
Was it fair?  Not sure.  Since I had no emotional investment in any religion discussed, I did not feel threatened by it.
You should see the special features on the DVD that included a bunch of other religions not included in the movie!  Also a riot, especially those orbiting teacups that made fun of agnostics  :-)

This Ebert quote (from Wikipedia) sums it up for me too:
"I report faithfully that I laughed frequently. You may very well hate it, but at least you've been informed. Perhaps you could enjoy the material about other religions, and tune out when yours is being discussed. That's only human nature."

By the way, why are you 3 years late in seeing this?  This Topic was here before ... (you'll see what I mean) ...

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The reason why I'm so late in viewing it is because I live in a highly religious community and not a single video rental would carry it!! Do you get a picture as to why I'm so bitter towards these religious fools?
  • From: pk712
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Fools?  Hey, this type of name-calling will get you in trouble.
So, why do you live in that community?  Glutton for frustration?  Property values low?
Thank God for Netflix (except no Special Features on Streaming -- so rent the DVD) ...

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Yeah I saw it and I think it was pretty funny. Of course he highlighted the most absurd in some cases. Others were just dead on.
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So, why do you live in that community? Glutton for frustration? Property values low?

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Clean air and water, many unimproved roads to ride my motorcycle, plenty of wildlife viewing, good diving and having my own private dock for my sailboat with ocean access... that's why.. I guess nothing's perfect. :-)

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Yeah I saw it and I think it was pretty funny. Of course he highlighted the most absurd in some cases. Others were just dead on.

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Bit of an eye opener, we knew that people with such beliefs existed but Bill's quick-witted sharp remarks and sense of humor exposed them even further.

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Absolutely brilliant! I highly recommend it to the myth believers and agnostics alike, even those 'fence straddlers'... the 'undecided'... who are not quite ready to be hard core atheist like me, and are seeking a little more evidence. [Post #4]

 

I at least, as one of those “straddlers” you no doubt have in mind, would be more willing to get off the fence if you had managed to convince me that there were no conceptions of god that had any utility or correspondence to reality. The anthropomorphic ones are pretty much of a slam dunk in terms of having no credibility, but the metaphorical ones are quite a bit less so.

 

Also, I tend to think that "hard core atheists" can be almost as dogmatic as religious fundamentalists.

 

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I at least, as one of those “straddlers” you no doubt have in mind

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Not at all... you hadn't even crossed my mind,  'Paranoia strikes deep Into your life it will creep'   

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Also, I tend to think that "hard core atheists" can be almost as dogmatic as religious fundamentalists.

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You are overlooking one huge difference, we don't make stuff up...

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Also, I tend to think that "hard core atheists" can be almost as dogmatic as religious fundamentalists.

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You are overlooking one huge difference, we don't make stuff up... [Post #13]

 

Really? I’ve known more than a few of them to make up their own definitions for words and to dogmatically insist that their definition trumped the dictionary one ....

 

But generally I’ll agree with you, at least as far as saying, “not to the same extent”. Although one might also reasonably argue that insisting that there is no god – particularly in the absence of providing all possible definitions for it and in spite of the lack of categorical evidence for the non-existence of all of those possible definitions or conceptions of it – probably qualifies as “making stuff up”.

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evangelists on both sides of the spectrum go overboard at times, especially in stretching the truth. Einstein got peeved about that as well.
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Really? I’ve known more than a few of them to make up their own definitions for words and to dogmatically insist that their definition trumped the dictionary one ....

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You mean like these:

Technetium

  • Taking its name from the Greek word "technetos," meaning artificial, technetium [Tc43] was the first synthetically produced element. In 1937, researchers Carlo Perrier and Emilio Segre discovered technetium after bombarding a sample of molybdenum with deuterium nuclei. Doctors and medical researchers use minute amounts of this silvery-grey metal as a radioactive tracer to detect certain illnesses and to monitor body functions. Engineers use technetium to calibrate machinery, and small concentrations of technetium oxide can protect steel and iron from corrosion.

Neptunium

  • Uranium, with an atomic number of 92, is the heaviest known naturally occurring element. Neptunium [Np93] was the first synthesized transuranium (after uranium) element. Working at the University of California's Berkeley Radiation Laboratory, Edwin McMillan and Philip H. Abelson produced Neptunium by bombarding uranium with neutrons. They named the new element Neptunium after the planet Neptune, the next planet after uranium's namesake Uranus.



Read more: A List of Radioactive Man-Made Elements | eHow.co.uk http://www.ehow.co.uk/info_8717273_list-radioactive-manmade-elements.html#ixzz1rmyTJRQV

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"Man Made Elements :
Lawrencium - Lr Rutherfordium - Rf
Dubnium - Db Seaborgium - Sg
Bohrium - Bh Hassium - Hs
Meitnerium - Mt Neptunium - Np
Plutonium - Pu Americium - Am
Curium - Cm Berkelium - Bk
Californium - Cf Einsteinium - Es
Fermium - Fm Mendelevium - Md
Nobelium - No
The advent of the nuclear age has given mankind the ability to synthesize new elements of higher molecular weight and number. While these man made elements are exciting research curiosities, they are short lived and radioactive so they are of little commercial interest at this time from a separations standpoint"

http://www.dow.com/liquidseps/prod/pt_ma…
 

Thank 'god' they are short lived... one of these days we will create a monster that all the mythical gods of the past cannot counter.

  • From: OringAbout
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Definitely is a problem: Pogo’s observation – “We have seen the enemy. And he is us.” – frequently seems to have some relevance.

 

But seems rather easy to forget that all we really have, I think, are some assumptions and presumptions with very little certitude that they are entirely correct; they might be reasonable approximations over a narrow spectrum of time, distance, or subject matter, but over larger ones they can prove more problematic than not.

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Hey Steers... I was thinking about you today wondering about your life exposure to the natural world, I know you live in Vancouver... been there a few times on my own boat and some deliveries too, the hookers are great by the way! But but.. what is your personal knowledge and experience with the other 'wildlife'?
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All Canucks have to wrassle bears, scare beavers, shoo away geese, ride a moose, and stalk a caribou before becoming citizens.
 
 
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