I know we've talked about the difference between Mormonism and Christianity.

 

If you haven't already seen This Week, where Pastor Rick Warren of Saddleback Church discussed whether Mormonism is a form of Christianity, I highlyrecommend you do.

 

Warren did an excellent job of explaining how Mormonism is polytheism.  He also gives a straight answer on evangelical beliefs on salvation.  For a pastor who has been accused of being a promoter of Chrislam, I found his answers to be unabashedly Christian.

1. Who cares?
2. It is up to the Mormons to decide if they are Christian or not. This is not a religious forum. If Mitt Romney were not running for President, this thread would not exist.
3. Muslims say Christianity is polytheism. It is an opinion. Nothing more.

Warren cited that Mormonishm is not Christianity, because Mormons believe in three gods instead of the Trinity.

 

I can add a few other deviations to the list:

• Joseph Smith taught if Mormons were good enough, they could become gods  Journal of Discourses
• To enter the Celestial Kingdom,people must have consent of Joseph Smith,  Journal of Discourses
• Salvation comes from works, but exhaltation to the Celestial Kingdom comes only from accepting LDS beliefs. LDS Articles of Faith.

It is also up to Christians as to whether to decide to include Mormons.

We are probably having this discussion because of Mitt Romney.

Hey, everybody!!!   I highly recommend watching it.

Especially, for RM.  It will answer your questions about whether or not Rick Warren has gone "Chrislam."

I don't think so.,

It is up to the Mormons to decide if they are Christian or not. This is not a religious forum. If Mitt Romney were not running for President, this thread would not exist.

 

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The person claiming to be a believer does not have the final word.  Jesus Christ does.

 

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Muslims say Christianity is polytheism.

 

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This is NOT simply opinion.  It is a misunderstanding of the Holy Trinity.

It is also up to Christians as to whether to decide to include Mormons.

Include them in what?

We are probably having this discussion because of Mitt Romney.

Which annoy us the hell out of me since a person's religion (according to the Constitution) is not supposed to be a factor in their eligibility to be President. I guess our respect for the law of the land is pretty low.

The person claiming to be a believer does not have the final word.  Jesus Christ does.

 

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

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I doubt Jesus votes in opur elections and as it stands, we get to call ourselves whatever we choose regardless of the JUDGMENT of others.

This is NOT simply opinion.  It is a misunderstanding of the Holy Trinity.
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No, the concept of the Trinity is open to interpretation.

The concept of the Trinity is CENTRAL to the Christian faith. 

 

Just as water (H2O) is found in three forms (ice, water, steam) so our entire universe is full of trinities.

 

Christians worship one God, not three.  Period.

No, the concept of the Trinity is open to interpretation.

No it is not open to theological interpretation.

Christians worship one God, not three.  Period.
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Yep but non Christians have a right to see things as they do even if it is based on lack of understanding,m just like you do with Islam.

No it is not open to theological interpretation.
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Everything is open to all kinds of interpretation. Theological or not.

Religion is subjective.

Truth is not subjective.

Truth is not subjective.
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Our perception of what that is most certainly is subjective. None of us have the Truth. We can only seek thruths with evidence and examples but we will not have the TRUTH in this life.

This is NOT simply opinion.  It is a misunderstanding of the Holy Trinity.
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which would be exactly like your posts about Islam.

None of us have the Truth.

 

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John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, THE TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, [but] grace and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ.

 

You are free to interpret that and to believe or not believe it.  But it you do NOT believe it, you cannot rightfully call yourself a Christian.  No one can claim to be a Christian while denying virtually all the tenets of the faith. Jesus was NOT just some simple philosopher with a few good ideas about how we should treat our fellow human beings.  He was not some fool who decided to come to Jerusalem one Passover, knowing that if he did he would likely be put to death.  And he is not some mediocre prophet who God will some day send back to earth to apologize for claiming to be what he wasn't.

Neither you nor anyone else has the right to say whether i can call myself a Christian or not. I am a follower of the teachings of Jesus. I am a Christian and you can believe what YOu choose but you have no right to say I cannot call myself a Christian.