The world's biggest physics experiment has succeeded in its first major test

 

http://abcnews.go.com/International/WireStory?id=5767673&page=1

 

 

still here

 

      Here but not here. This should have happened in Texas at the US supercollider twenty years ago but it was killed because, after all, we already have Fermilab. But now Femi can be closed down to pay for the Iraq war because CERN exists. Has anyone in the White House ever passed Chemistry 1A; and that includes members of Bush's science advisory board. I suppose politicians would rather discuss the controversy; that doesn't exist.

I hear you. I was bummed when the project in Waxahachie was shut down. Had some family members down there.

Been to Fermilab, striking similarity to Tuck's High Energy projects that were conducted at Los Alamo. We has it in our grasps, but opted for the ISS.

 

Last I heard the ants were eating up insulation on cables, can't mix science and Texas ;-)

 

... after all, we already have ...

 

      This is not really a response to myself. It's really an add on anecdote.

 

      Not too long ago in San Diego, the staff at Mt. Laguna Observatory testified before the county and city about the use and increase of high pressure sodium street lighting. Such lighting wipes out most of the visible spectrum and a bit of the near violet. They made a good and successful case; for the present. One of the comments from a politico was, "Why do you need to observe from MT. Lagua? You all can use the Hubble Space Telescope."

I thought you were like me and bailed out of San Diego? You better send me some Fillipi's pizza

When i was in Flagstaff a few years ago, it was cool that they took light pollution seriuosly and took measure to tone it down, and where I am now ...in the outback ;-) ... it's creeping in, I can still see Andromeda<naked eye>, it's getting harder to see and eventually it will be gone. :-(

 

It was sweet last month when I stopped outside of Clayton NM ...moon was down , about 4am during the perseids.Oh the stars were so nice.

 

I would of stayed longer but had another 500 miles to drive

another 500 miles to drive

 

      I bailed out of San Diego in 1979 but I do have friends there; the chairman of the SDSU Astronomy Department actually.

 

     The last time I saw the Milky Way, the one in the sky, was a year ago in Bozrah Connecticut. The best I can do is find stars brighter than 4th magnitude, sometimes, in the skies around DC and Baltimore.

We we're safe all along.
The Large Hadron Collider is the largest and most complex scientific instrument ever built and the highest energy particle accelerator in the world.
The accelerator is located 100 m underground and runs through both French and Swiss territory. ( 27km circumference)

Year 2008 September 10th, marks the culmination of 20 years of work by over 8000 scientists thousands of engineers, technicians and support staff from over 80 different countries.

some critics say that this could create a black hole and suck up the entire world..but many say that even if a black hole is created it will wannish within a millionth of a second..

Latest : they have successfully done the 1st testing on the 10th September 2008, sending 2 beams separately clockwise and anticlockwise, which had successfully gone all the way around the ring. but there had been some minor errors, which we dont have to worry about.

They are going to do one big collision on the 21st of October, but apparently, "In the 2008 run, however, the LHC will operate at a reduced energy of 10 TeV. The winter shut-down (starting likely around end of November) will then be used to train the superconducting magnets, such that the 2009 run will start at the full 14 TeV design energy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQNpucos9wc
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oops, something went doo doo and all bets are off for the moment. Sad to see this happen so soon, but that is life in deep science. Wonder if they bought the failed components in China.

Wonder if they bought the failed components in China

 

     I have no doubts that there are components from China in the system; check the chips in your computer sometime. I am not surprised that there have been these kinds of problems; very few actually. The complexity of this machine is over the top and at the raggedy edge of engineering. The LHC is massive and delicate. It's a long way from Lawrence working in the basement of Le Conte Hall in Berkeley.  

none of the chips in any of my computers are made in China. Korea and Japan and some Malaysia, yes. Other components are chinese though, like the power supply.