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  • From: LovesInspiration
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  • 3/27/09
Yes he is real. Read Isaiah 14, he's also known as Lucifer. The Dr., I would like to know what that doctor's childhood was like -- why he has such a need to self-validate himself. His whole focus was himself, which was also Satan's focus, which is found in Isaiah 14. How else could we explain rape, murder, incest, gangs, shootings, killings, death? Satan, and he is real. Yet, God is Love. And Satan is the exact opposite.
  • From: Ignostico
  •   To: LovesInspiration
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  • 4/12/09
Have you met Satan?  Has ANY of your trusted friends met Satan?  If not, then how can you know that Satan is not a myth?
Just because your socio-emotional upbringing convinced you of Satan's existence does NOT make it real.  Just like Santa and the tooth fair y ...

  • From: derSturm
  •   To: LovesInspiration
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  • 8/31/09

First, kudos to the ancient Hebrews for several things:

For composing some tittilating myths and evolving these from generation to generation, campfire to campire,

For inventing a written language,

For using it,

And for conserving their papers for so many subsequent centuries.

Now, on to the question at hand:  To believe that God is all good, that Satan is bad, and that God created everything, is implausible.  Impossible, in other words.  They can NOT be true all three.

(I shouldn't be sharing my secrets for free.)

The Judeo-Christian gist is that God created Lucifer, a marvelous angel, and that this Lucifer rebelled and so became Satan, source and impetus of Evil (the opposite of good, the virtual opposite of God).  This is well and acceptable as myths go unless one believes both this myth AND that God is all good, that Satan and not God is the origin of "evil", "bad", "not good", etc.

If the myth is true then this, too, is true:  When God created Lucifer God created in Lucifer the potential for evil.  Were this not so then Lucifer could not have rebelled, could not have become evil.

Let me say it another way:  If God created Lucifer and Lucifer became evil, then God HAD to, when "He" created Lucifer, create within this Lucifer the potential to become evil.  In other words, God, and not Lucifer (Satan) is the origin of evil.

God had to create the concept of evil (and what is evil if not a concept?) when God created Lucifer.  Otherwise there would have been no potential for Lucifer to express evil.

You can believe that God created Lucifer and that this Lucifer became evil ONLY if you accept that God (and not Satan) is the origin and impetus of evil. 

 
 
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