Gman, what really is behind all this is the thinking that only Christians because of their beliefs can be moral and righteous................. That's a real simple answer. One has to have someone or something bigger than ourselves to help us know what is righteous and what is moral. You will not find it within yourself. If one claims to be able to find something with oneself then one is saying I am God. Therefore I know what is moral and I know what is righteous. Righteous means "acting or being in accordance with what is just, honorable, and free from guilt or wrong (c)2000 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved "How many times have you or Packfan asked us not to judge Christianity by it's followers? You appologize for them." It's because at time their presnetation is a detrement to the cause. Presenting a message to people,that doesn't get people to think about who they are, what they are, or in a manner that is forceful doesn't get positive results. It's offensive to the listener or reader. "I am very proud of the way I act and I am very proud of the way I am guided by the wonderful spirit that resides in me! I couldn't be more greatful for it!........" A righteous person has no reason to be proud. A righteous person is a person right before God and righteousness isn't obtained by what we do but what has been done for us and believing in it and accepting it. If you're proud of the goals you have acheived then your goals were set to low.